🎧 Episode Summary
In this episode of the Future in Flight podcast, host Shawn Starker interviews J.J. Madison, a Harvard-educated writer, safety advocate, and author of “Yikes! 100 Smart Pilots and the Dumb Things They Did.” J.J. shares his circuitous path to aviation, which began with a childhood fascination with helicopters and eventually led him to mentorship from the Tuskegee Airmen. He discusses the importance of mentorship, community, and continuous learning in aviation, as well as his mission to make aviation safer and more accessible through storytelling and the Victor Kelo Fund, which provides flight scholarships for under-resourced communities.
The conversation delves into J.J.’s experiences in various aircraft, from 19-seat turboprops to 737s, and his commitment to aviation safety, inspired by his time on an airline’s aviation safety committee. J.J. emphasizes the value of sharing mistakes and learning from others’ experiences, highlighting the role of NASA reports in promoting safety. He also touches on the future of aviation, including the potential of electric and hybrid aircraft and the increasing need for skilled aviation professionals from all backgrounds to maintain the integrity of the national airspace system.
✨ Key Points
- 🚁 J.J. Madison’s unconventional journey into aviation, fueled by childhood dreams and mentorship from the Tuskegee Airmen.
- 📚 The importance of storytelling in aviation safety and education, as highlighted by J.J.’s book, “Yikes!”
- 🤝 The role of community and mentorship in supporting aspiring pilots, especially those from under-resourced communities.
- 💰 The Victor Kelo Fund’s mission to provide flight scholarships and make aviation more accessible.
- ✈️ The future of aviation, including the potential of electric and hybrid aircraft and the need to address the skilled labor shortage.
🕒 Chapter Timestamps
0:00 — 0:14 | Introduction to J.J. Madison
0:15 — 1:17 | Shawn Starker introduces the podcast and J.J. Madison’s background
1:18 — 3:50 | J.J. Madison shares his early experiences and path to aviation
3:51 — 5:13 | Discussion about the opportunity to be mentored by the Tuskegee Airmen
5:14 — 7:25 | Preparedness meeting opportunity and J.J.’s aviation experiences
7:26 — 10:16 | Advice for people transitioning into aviation later in life
10:17 — 11:09 | Importance of seeing representation in the pilot community
11:10 — 13:35 | J.J. discusses the impact of living examples and the need for diverse representation in aviation
13:36 — 14:05 | The skilled labor issue in aviation and the need for broadening the talent pool
14:06 — 16:17 | J.J.’s interest in aviation safety and his work with NASA reports
16:18 — 18:22 | The inspiration behind J.J.’s book and the Victor Kelo Fund
18:23 — 19:07 | Show supporter: Flight Sunglasses
19:08 — 20:18 | Details about the Victor Kelo Fund and flight scholarships
20:19 — 21:11 | How to get involved with the Victor Kelo Fund
21:12 — 23:07 | The power of stories in conveying messages about aviation safety and community building
23:08 — 23:54 | Emphasis on the word “Yikes!” and expressive language in the cockpit
23:55 — 26:48 | J.J. shares stories and experiences from his aviation career
26:49 — 30:00 | More aviation stories and the importance of aeronautical decision-making skills
30:01 — 31:15 | Discussing NASA reports and sharing “Yikes” moments
31:16 — 31:29 | How to connect with J.J. Madison
31:30 — 34:19 | The future of automation in aviation and the importance of jobs that AI can’t replace
34:20 — 35:33 | J.J.’s favorite in-flight snacks and the story behind the banana
35:34 — 36:26 | J.J.’s dream aircraft
36:27 — 37:50 | Who J.J. would choose to fly with
37:51 — 40:01 | Closing remarks and takeaways
🔗 Links & Resources
- Yikes! 100 Smart Pilots and the Dumb Things They Did: http://www.yikesthebook.com/
- Victor Kelo Fund: http://www.yikesthebook.com/
- Aviation Safety Reporting System (NASA Reports): https://aviationsafetyreportingsystem.gov/
- FLYTE Sunglasses: http://FLYTE.Aero/
- AviNation USA: https://www.avinationusa.com/
- Creative Relay Media: https://creativerelaymedia.com/


